HGSE Assistant Professor Jal Mehta
“We need to think of each school as a kind of puzzle that needs to be continuously solved by the people in it,” says HGSE Assistant Professor Jal Mehta in this thought-provoking interview. Mehta links to bold examples as he discusses solving this puzzle through raising school standards, ending "pass the buck" accountability, creating change through education reform, and closing the achievement gap. Now it's your turn! Your comments are welcomed.
Q: You've done a lot of work on the history of American educational policy, and how educational policy has been shaped by the rise of standards and accountability. Could you describe how this rise in accountability came about, and what future trends we might expect to see in educational policy?
My research suggests that the rise in accountability is a result of a number of factors, some specific to the field of education and some not. Surveys show that the public's trust in major professions has been falling since roughly the mid 1960s, which has led to increased external accountability across a variety of fields. Education is particularly vulnerable to external accountability because of its dismal record with poor students, its organizational weakness as a highly feminized “semi profession,” and the centrality of education to many non-educational concerns (economic, social, cultural, etc.), which leads a wide variety of actors to want to regulate it. No Child Left Behind is an outgrowth of a two decades-long push for external accountability that grows out of primarily economic concerns.
I don't see the desire for external accountability reversing itself, but it is possible that the ends for which educators are held accountable could shift. In particular, the emphasis on “21st century” skills—defined by their advocates to be things like creativity, teamwork, and conceptual thinking (skills which, not coincidentally, have always been valuable)—could conceivably get those who want schools to improve for economic or social reasons on board with a menu of pedagogical objectives that would be much more congenial to many educators than what we see today.
Q: Accountability is frequently taken to be the solution to the challenges we observe in the field of education. Why is this perception problematic?
It's not always problematic. In a project that I'm working on examining accountability across a variety of professions, I devote one chapter to accountability “success stories” and one to the “downsides” of accountability. The success stories tend to be internal to the field under consideration. An organization or even an entire sector embraces a certain set of outcomes as within its control to achieve, and then uses its accountability to those ends to drive an intensive examination and revision of practice. Atul Gawande tells an inspiring story of a doctor treating cystic fibrosis who helped his patients live 14 years longer than average by assuming that patient lifespan was highly affected by his medical choices and engaging in relentless experimentation until he created more effective practices. Good schools do this: they are determined to serve their students well, and they hold themselves accountable for ways that they are failing in their mission. Students who don't go to college, or who don't write well, spark these schools to reexamine their practice, to think about what they might do differently to improve outcomes. In my view, one of the most heartening educational developments of the past twenty years has been this embrace of internal accountability, as some good schools have tried to move from the “individual discretion” view of professionalism that has traditionally characterized the field to the more “collective view” of professionalism that internal accountability implies.
The problem comes when we have what we've seen under NCLB, which is what we might think of as “pass the buck” accountability. Here a higher power asks a lower power to do something that neither the higher power nor the lower power knows how to do, and then proceeds to publicly embarrass the lower power for failing to do it. Coupled with the narrow metrics of success and rapid expectations for improvement, the result has been predictable demoralization and resistance at the school level, and little of the desired widespread improvement of practice. Policymakers and teachers are caught in a downward cycle where failures in past practice lead to increased external regulation, which in turn makes fewer talented people want to teach in the highest poverty schools, which in turn invites even greater regulation. What we want in the longer run is the opposite spiral characteristic of good organizations, where improved practice generated internally leads to increasingly lighter levels of external regulation.
One more thing: accountability is just one dimension in the overall picture of producing organizational quality. Organizations improve by effectively training their practitioners, by increasing the stock of basic and applied knowledge, by inventing new practices and more consistently applying existing good ones. Medicine is a field that works relatively well where most of the improvement processes come on the front end (extensive training, clinical science building on basic science, ongoing dissemination of clinical science) with little emphasis on accountability for results on the back end. Education is a field that works relatively badly where there is little on the front end and lots of accountability on the back end. I don't want to send everyone to 4 years of Ed school, nor do I think the science model applies to education as well it does to medicine, but I do think that in education it is the problem-solving side which is underdeveloped and the accountability side which is overdeveloped.
Now it's your turn. We welcome your comments on accountability below.
Q: Your background in sociology and current research in education suggests the importance of having different types of expertise involved in educational reform. Why is it important to consider both local practices, “top-down” knowledge, and their relationship when implementing reform measures?
There is a pretty significant literature on this, which has been almost entirely ignored by policymakers in recent years. Those who actually sit in schools know a lot more about the problems they are facing than those who sit in statehouses: they know their kids; they know what techniques do and don't work with them; and they necessarily have had to develop a kind of craft or experiential knowledge needed to get through the day. To use an analogy: if you had to navigate a ship through a tight spot, would you want a Nobel Prize-winning physicist or an experienced boat captain? At the same time, local knowledge can have a kind of complacency or parochialism about it: the way we did it yesterday is the way we do it today and the way we will do it tomorrow. So, when things aren't working, policymakers are right to try to stimulate change (usually by creating incentives or rules that push more schools towards the characteristics of existing successful schools). But what they need to realize is that the impact of a policy is inevitably going to be an interaction of the new policy and the existing norms and routines of how things have previously been done. How that will play out in any case is much more difficult to know in advance than policymakers like to admit. Some of the wisest writing on this has suggested that we think of policy as a kind of initial hypothesis, which needs to be refined and adapted as we learn more about how it works in an actual context. The takeaway for me is that we want to combine an aggressive effort to combat educational inequality with an epistemological modesty about the likely results of any given policy choice. Pragmatism, as developed by Dewey and others, takes this general stance towards solving public problems and it still seems to me the right one.
Q: How might we organize voices at the school level to make them heard at the policy level? What can teachers and parents do to ensure that their concerns are addressed by policymakers?
People at the level of the school have considerable unappreciated power in shaping the direction of school reform writ large. A working example is worth a thousand policy papers. Consider the success of “high poverty-high performing schools” like the Knowledge is Power Program (KIPP) charter schools, or the University Park Campus School in Worcester (regular public). Over 10 years, schools of this variety have essentially changed the school reform conversation from “can schools overcome the effects of family background?” to “are we willing to go to the lengths that these schools do to overcome the effects of family background?” I think it is safe to say that Mike Feinberg and Dave Levin, the founders of KIPP, have had more influence on the school reform debate than any academic or policy wonk over the past 15 years. Similarly, if schools like the Expeditionary Learning Schools, which achieve similar results to KIPP using much more progressive pedagogy, continue to replicate their success and become more widely known, they could move the debate forward another step by showing that there are other ways to achieve the same outcomes.
Now it's your turn. We welcome your comments on making school level voices heard at the policy level and your thoughts on school reform below.
Q: In a paper on the achievement gap with Prof. Ronald Ferguson (Harvard Kennedy School), you argue that the achievement gap has narrowed in the recent decades, this progress came to a halt in 1990. Why is this the case? How can changes at the policy level help schools close this gap between the different student ethnicities?
We don't really know why progress in closing racial gaps slowed after some progress in the 1970s and 1980s. One theory is that it was easier to improve basic skills with policy from above because it requires little new learning on the part of teachers and limited advances for students. Our current challenge is to help all students gain higher order and more conceptual skills, which is a much more daunting task, one which the American school system has never accomplished.
There are a number of things I could say about policy, but I will focus on just one. Policy would do well to remember that the key unit of improvement is the school. Going back to at least the 1970s “effective schools” literature we have examples of really successful schools in high poverty areas, but we still have no examples of similarly successful districts. There is a reason for this—the school is the level at which the working climate is set, it is the place where teachers meet to improve their practice, and it is the unit of which students are a part. We need to think of each school as a kind of puzzle that needs to be continuously solved by the people in it. What policymakers can do is to support that process in a variety of ways: altering human capital policies to bring more talented people into schools (and get less talented people out of schools); giving people in schools control over ends as well as means; giving principals and other teacher leaders within schools a variety of tools they can use in the process of organizational problem-solving; closing down failing schools; and developing curriculum, providing non-academic services, and doing the variety of tasks that can be done more efficiently outside the school. Essentially, we need to invert the pyramid, putting the school at the top, and thinking of policy's role as in support of the problem-solving that inevitably will need to happen at the school level.
Now it's your turn. We welcome your comments on closing the achievement gap below.
Published: April 2009







I have followed the evolution of Professor Mehta's scholarly work for over a decade now. His grasp of the nuances and challenges faced by those who develop education policy and those who strive to implement it on a daily basis has always been impressive. What I have observed in recent years and is reflected in this interview, however, is an impressive ability to balance theory / observation with pragmatic problem solving. It is appropriate that Professor Mehta recognizes the problem of "pass the buck accountability" because it is an apt parallel to the somewhat stodgy and theoretical approach to the subject matter taken by some of his more senior colleagues. Professor Mehta transcends that ivory tower shortcoming with his concrete, real-world approach to solving the American education crisis. I look forward to seeing how his studies will develop and how they will shape our educational options for the better in the near future.
William Reckler
In reference to accountability being an external engine brought about by lack of progress: Lower education (K-8th) is unlike any other profession in that it partners with social and emotional roots (i.e., parent/parenting). In no other profession does there exist this vital link to success. Without the home cooperation, teachers face an uphill battle in that they have no or little support from the home environment. Students come to early childhood education bereft of age commensurate language skills as well as all the other advantages of other students. In conclusion, being from a poor (economic and education) background creates hurdles that most good practices have not been able to overcome.
As a speech and language therapist I see this paucity of language - which leads to a becoming a non-reader - without intensive scrutiny and instruction on an individual basis. This takes time, money and good creative teaching. In a classroom of 26 students, it is difficult to focus on the undernourished child. I use undernourished in the fullest sense of the word.
francesca caramagno
When someone says they want to be a medical doctor or even get a PhD. at Harvard, they have to go through a rigorous process and hopefully obtain entry. When they are done with school, rigor remains and they have standards to maintain like publishing scholarly papers and saving patients lives. If they lose 70% of the patients or only 50% graduate toward health then someone loses their license and they cannot continue to practice. Do you suppose that if we impose such rigors on Education- that only those who prove they are accountable by saving 95% or more of the patients/students- then this achievement Gap thing would go away? I think it would.
Kim V. Robinson-Science Teacher Hazelwood School District
OMG!! My recent publication "Best Kept Secrets About Today's HIGH SCHOOL REFORM "BOTTOM UP!" parrots this pragmatic approach for paradigm change relegated to single high schools--one school at a time--where students, parents and teachers define the mission, culture and climate of their school, where no student fails or drops out. Your inspired notions fit exactly into the themes of this practitioner's view of the way schooling should be in the trenches. Teachers, parents and students deserve the responsibility, accountability and successes such schooling brings to individual learners. The publication offers a concrete overview how practitioners, parents and students can conduct school reform to remarkable successes. I completely agree with Professor Jal Mehta's positions and enthusiastically support the fact that they are highly practical within any high school that seeks to improve bottom up. I want to send the professor a copy of my book! Please provide an address and it's on the way! Thank you for pushing education into a different environment of schooling leadership and passions for learning and teaching collaboratively.
Jerry Wanser
I'm happy to see that considerable consideration has been given to those who work in the trenches. You can be an amazing physician, but if the patient doesn't show up for the operation, one does not meet with success. Absenteeism is an issue of concern for me. I worry that many families do not value education; consequently, it is not an imperitive that one should show up for class on a regular basis. "Cultures of resistance" is how Lawrence Cremin describes marginal populations who want to make a statement by not valuing schooling. Who, then, is held accountable? Teachers?
Kathryn L. Keene, M.Ed.
Thanks everyone for the comments. Jerry -- I'd love to see your book -- 447 Gutman Library, 6 Appian Way, Cambridge, MA 02138.
Jal Mehta
As a former student of Dr. Mehta's, I am happy to see his ideas gaining further traction in the HGSE community. It is my fervent desire that Dr. Mehta have the opportunity to engage his fellow faculty in a discussion about the virtues of founding a HGSE public lab charter school in which his theories, and those of his most enlightened colleagues, may be put to the test. Under the rigors of our currently accountability regime, it would be enlightening to see what kind of results a HGSE-based public school could achieve. Harvard's leadership of school reform conversations will gain credibility if HGSE were to push their professors out of Gutman and into the fray.
Ethan Gray
Buen articulo, pero no vi nada sobre su pensamiento en cuanto a la reforma al planeamiento tactico en las Universidades. Es es un reto de hoy. Ortega y Gasset decia que remover una Universidad es tanto como remover un cementerio: aparece de todo. Pero aqui no vi nada de eso.
Fernando Barrero
English translation by Google Translate and Communications staff:
Good article, but I didn't see anything about his thoughts on the reform of tactical planning at universities. It's a challenge today. Ortega and Gasset said that digging up a university is like digging up a cemetery -- everything comes up, including those things that we would rather not see. But, this article didn't touch upon that.
In my book, The Belief Factor and the White Superiority Syndrome, (ISBN# 1-58500-250-x), I have explained that one of the reasons that black adolescents do not compete well in school academics with white adolescents is because of the "belief system" (Christian fundamentalism) in which black children are raised. The black community's worship of a White male (Jesus Christ) as their Lord and Savior has long term negative psychological consequences on many black children. Such "white male worshipping" by the black community afflicts many black people with a debilitating white superiority syndrome which will not allow black adolescents to compete well with white adolescents in academics. I submitted my book to Gutman Library and you should be able to find it there. In the book I give specifics regarding the "belief factor" and the inability of many black children to perform well in comparison to their white counterparts. The black community's "white male worshipping" is especially disasterous to many young black males who feel emasculated and disrespected and intuitively become recalcitrant, and often act in ways that lead to crime, violence, and incarceration. Check out my book and check me out (www.drchrisbell.com).
Dr. Christopher C. Bell Jr.
My comment is on the level of Pre K teaching and learning. The VPK (Voluntary Pre-Kindergarten program is very hot in our state(Florida). I have been in the field of Early Learning Education for almaost 28 years. I've held a Bachelor Degree in Elementary Education and have attend and taught many classes in my field. We have had over our umbrella of authority, the Early Learning Coalitions over each County. The accountability has been passed on to the Preschool personnel and we are heavily mointered to provide accountability by individuals who some have less experience than the people they are mointoring but maybe on a power search and accountability is out the door. We had Bill HB501 which I support because of some of the things we have lost by having a Coalition over us who have lost sight of the value of the people they are asking to provide achievement gains in students.
Carolynne Mather
We cannot reform until we know what we are reforming and why. To this end, we must first define education and the purpose of education. In so doing reform will be all inclusive and no one will excluded from the effort to reform. Reform must all come from the heart. For too long we have had buzz words like accountability with people in education repeating words that without internalizing what is being said. To hold some one accountable, one must first be accountable. In other words, one must examine oneself. To reform, reformers must be committed to doing what's right because it is the right thing to do. This is the definition of righteousness. We are all called to righteousness and holiness, not to what sounds impressive. It is time that we do away with the notion that children cannot and not learn because they are poor and more often than not black. To the people who still believe this, how do you account for those persons who live outside the US that are black and are successful learners, or those persons who during the slavery and immediately after slavery were able to earn doctorates under the most deplorable conditions. The lack of success had more to do with family values than color of skin or economic status. That's why its vitally important that we define education. This will help us design curriculum that is suited to those we teach as well as developing methods of delivery. I sincerely hope that this 21st century reform era I will never again hear or see any reference to poverty and school failure. This is stinking thinking that is in serious need of reform. I grew up in a country and time that the poorer one was the more hungry he or she was for learning. One of the things we understood was that while we could not change the color of our skins we could change our social class and education was the vehicle for such change. We understood that real reason for education was not merely to earn and salary to buy all the trappings that money could buy, but rather education was to gain knowledge, wisdom and understanding which was life changing.
Denise Husbands
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